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  Are ex-jw's or "apostates" addicted to jw-bashing?

  by booker-t in

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  this might seem like a funny question to ask but my mom told me that "apostates" are addicted to jw-bashing and cannot let it go and have a life.

  i asked her what she meant by this statement and she told me that all ex-jw's talk about is the wts and jw's and negative things about the jw's.

  she said that we get up thinking about jw-bashing and go to sleep thinking about jw-bashing just like a drug addict.

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  Booker T

  In my case; TALKING about your life as a JW to someone who has had the same experiences as you; is good therapy; supportive and healthy. It is called "camaraderie".

  We are not necessarily Bashing anyone or anything.

  You might want to tell your mom, that some of us that were raised in that religion and had no other choice have a comparison to make. When we were of an age to think for ourselves; we made our own decisons about our life. In hindsight we found the jw teachings to be ; manipulative and having a negative impact on our lives

  IT IS AN OBJECTIVE STATEMENT OF THINGS AS WE PERCIEVE THEM BASED ON WHAT OUR EXPERIENCE TAUGHT US.
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  My Elder Friend Got Announced As Being Deleted.....

  by minimus in

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  for going to my kid's wedding.

  he was told he was not "serious", had no "self-control" and "did not work well with the body".

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  franklin J

  too bad for him, Min; he sounds like a good friend to you,attending your daughters wedding knowing what he might have to face afterwards from those cretins..

  I hope he does not take it all to heart; this could be DEVASTATING to him if he takes it all seriously.

  We all know what they are about; someone in your friends position does not fully understand yet; he has a long painful road ahead of him.
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  FOND FAREWELL TO THE BI-MONTHLY AWAKE!

  by steve2 in

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  with the jw congregations about to be informed that the ubiquitous awake!

  magazine is to be issued just once a month from january 2006, now is an apt time for interested parties to share brief memories and/or impressions about the bi-monthly awake!

  magazines, whether poignant, hard-hitting or humorous.

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  my memories of the AWAKE...

  a cheaply written and bound missive; with not so objective secular information....good riddance!

  ...although I do think it would make good firewood kindling....
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  What Do You Do For Fun?

  by minimus in

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  now that you have all this extra time (not having to go to meetings, service, conventions, etc.

  ) what do you do for fun?

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  ...WHAT THE HELL EVER I WANT...

  ...and the only one I have to answer to is my wife...
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  My wife wants me to write down my questions

  by Goldminer in

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  my wife knows i have many douts about the wts because of things that have happened that have made me question certain teachings.i have been inactive for 6 yrs now and i have no desire to ever become active again.i love my wife very much(she is presently inactive also) and i wish she would see my point of view or at least look into the society's past but she's a die-hard jw,hanging on no matter what they do or say.. anyways,we had a chat last week and she told me to write down all the questions i have and then she'll do everything to get me the answers.i'm assuming she'll give the question list to an elder she believes she can trust and he'll come up with logical answers to all my questions, then i'll humbly return to all my meetings and progress spiritually.. i'm asking everyone's help to draw up a good list even though i am not very confident of getting any real,logical or intelligent answers to all of them.i understand if the elders are stumbled by these questions,they might take the easy route-label me an apostate and try to df me.if that's the case then i'll stand my ground and hopefully my wife will see that nobody really wants to answer my questions.. a co once tried to answer my questions about 607 vs 587.i told my wife when he runs out of real proof and answers he'll tell me to wait on jehovah.that's exactly what happened!!!!!.

  thank you everyone for your help on this one.

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  Goldminer,

  Since you asked, I would advise you NOT to write anything down.

  First of all, by doing so, you are validating that you take all this nonsense seriously; and that you accept that the teachings of Jehovahs Witnesses can , in fact, be actually verified. DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME.

  Second, as has been mentioned in prior posts, this will be used against you ( these JWs being as "sly as a serpent and innocent as doves"; to quote their own literature)

  As for your wife; my personal response would be that if she loves you; she will accept you on your own terms. Is she having you prepare a list to compare with one she has made already; to compare notes of pros and cons; so to speak. Or is she having you prepare a list of objections for her to overcome with the help of an elder?

  My hunch is the latter. Try asking her to write down all the reasons she DOES want to continue a life in so controling a religion; a religion which makes her a second class citizen to you .

  Good luck, Frank
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  Dog food for lunch

  by onacruse in

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  so, i'm getting ready to head out the door this morning, and kate says that my lunch is ready and sitting on the kitchen countertop.. i take my vitamins, and right next to them is a can of purina alpo "prime cuts (in gravy!

  )"...and what's even better, they've been flame broiled.

  i'm thinking that the honeymoon is over.. .

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  ...I assume that Kate is your wife...

  If so, I would buy her a dog leash and ask her if she is interested in going for a walk....
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  Please say a prayer for us...

  by morty in

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  my husbands grandmother as been diagnosed with full blown ovary cancer.

  they fear that she also has it in her stomach as well.

  they are trying to get her to the or tonight in order to operate on her right away.

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  I know what this is like....'

  my thoughts and prayers are with you...

  frank
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  WAS YOUR CONGREGATION A GOSSIP MILL?

  by badboy in

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  must dash,got a seat booked at the minibus cafe!.

  my driver will be coming for me any moment now!.

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  oh yes, big time....
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  To All Bodies Of Elders!-----(About Researchers)

  by Voyager in

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  this letter was posted over on (channel c) and (ex-jw california).

  thanks stan for posting it!.

  christian congregation of jehovah?s witnesses.

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  franklin J

  ahh, George Orwell and "1984" is alive and well in Brooklyn....
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  Mom slipped me an Awake magazine

  by Mulan in

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  last week my mother gave me a woman's magazine that she had read at the home where she lives.

  it had organization tips and recipes she thought i would enjoy.

  i hadn't looked at it until two days ago, after she asked me if i had read it yet.

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  sneaky mom, Mulan

  I would return the favor; and print out some copies from the "best of" column from this website and slip it in a Cosmo or People magazine and give it to her.

  No words or acknowledgment need be spoken.